Ladies’ Thursday: Friendships Between the Genders

11 Oct

Matthew 10:16, “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves:  be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”

The world has changed a lot in the course of my 54 years.

I was born just before the height of the sexual revolution.  When I was young, I became aware that many of my grandmother’s generation had been pregnant when they got married but they:  a) kept it quiet (it’s amazing how many people knew though, and passed the information along to my generation) and b) always got married to make their mistake “right.”

The sexual revolution (which came after the pill was invented when I was two years old) eventually set all of those former ways on their ear.

But the sexual revolution also “sexualized” many relationships that previously would be seen as innocent.  It gave people the tendency to assume that a relationship is sexual unless proven otherwise.  The precious old-fashioned concept of friendship which has been around since Bible days became the idea of “friends with benefits” that rules today.   

Remember that.  It has become the human race’s default setting to assume sex is taking place in almost any relationship where two people spend significant amounts of time together.  This is now the case even with two same sex people.  When I was a young naval officer, it was usual for two men or two women to buy a house together for the investment value (as junior officers, they needed to pool their money to afford a house, but they also knew that renting an apartment was throwing money away). 

Now, with the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” many single officers don’t buy a house with a same sex roommate because it will be assumed that they are a couple.  For two gals who are hoping to get boyfriends at their new duty station, being known as lesbians can be a showstopper!

So, turning to relationships with the opposite gender . . . let’s project that out.

Our society is crazy about sex and about putting a sexual narrative underneath every relationship, no matter how innocent.  So we need to be forewarned and forearmed with that fact or we will get ourselves into trouble by simply being naïve.

The above verse is very appropriate here.  We must be wise as serpents but gentle as doves.  People love to gossip and they find gossip about sex to be the most titillating of all.  They don’t really need to have any facts in order to accuse us of sinful behavior.  If we are not careful, we play right into their need to be entertained.

And, as Christians, Christ’s name can be slandered in these situations.

I have many male friends, both at work and in my church and Bible study circles.  I want to address, specifically, the friendship between a man and a woman who are married to two other people. 

When I was a young woman, those friendships didn’t happen very much outside of a group setting in which couples got together for fellowship.  That was, and remains, a safe place to have friends of both genders.

However, as I have gotten older, the advent of cell phones, texting, Facebook, and private messages on Facebook have brought about situations where conversations do take place one-on-one, sometimes in person, sometimes on-line.  Sometimes it is just a case of you and that other person having an interest that your spouses do not share.   

Let’s just say it.  It is okay to not share every interest with your spouse.  There is no spouse on this planet who shares every possible interest with his or her husband or wife.  It can’t be done.  If it happened, that couple would have found paradise on earth and wouldn’t even need to look forward to heaven. 

Only Jesus fulfills every desire of our hearts.

In humans, we will find that our spouse meets many, but not all, of our needs.  Friends will fill in the gaps.  Sometimes those friends will be of the opposite gender.   (Disclaimer:  To repeat, Jesus is ultimately the One who meets all of our needs.  He uses people to do that.  Just want to make sure I am not misunderstood as overly exalting any human being, including a spouse. Also, not everything we perceive as a need is a need. But God graciously provides for us all good things to enjoy).

So how do we safeguard our marriages so that they are not threatened by our friendships with the opposite gender?

I have a few specific ideas that have worked for me and have, most of all, minimized the opportunity for others to gossip about my friendships:

1) No being behind closed doors with someone of the opposite gender who is not my husband.  In fact, I travel a lot with my workmates and one time we were in Los Angeles on a very cold week.  One coworker, who loves to build fires in hotel rooms with fireplaces, bought three of those preformed logs, one for his own hearth and two for those of us who were sharing a car with him.  When we got back to the hotel, knowing that I didn’t know how to build the fire in my room, he went in and did it for me, while I kept the door open and stood halfway out on the sidewalk.  I reassured him that that had nothing to do with him, but everything to do with not wanting to attract gossip.

2) Making sure my husband knows about my friendships.  I believe this may have been what doomed the political campaign of Herman Cain.  Remember?  He had exchanged about 100 texts with a woman and given her money when she was down-and-out.  Because his wife knew nothing about this when questioned, everyone assumed that he was having sex with this other woman. 

My take on that was that he was perhaps just unwise.  He was on the road, campaigning.  He probably got out of touch with his wife for a few days.  It is not, in itself, a sin to exchange texts with people of the opposite gender.  You would find those on my phone. With some good friends, you would easily find 100 of them, over the course of time.  The difference is that my husband knows about them.

I have also given money to a younger male friend whose house was flooded out as a hurricane came through Virginia Beach.  The floor needed emergency repairs.  I think his wife was still out of town when I gave him the money but, again, my husband knew about it.  Hard for people to make an accusation there.     

3) Try to make it a foursome whenever possible.  If you and your opposite gender friend have esoteric interests in common (for me, read:  theology), the eyes of your spouse and your friend’s spouse may glaze over sometimes in the conversation, but make the effort anyway.  Find out what interests the friend’s spouse and talk about that, too.

I always remember that it is my husband’s strong interest in and talent for finance that gave me the mental space even to be able to study theology in the first place. If he had not been a good earner from the git-go, I would have had to work a lot more hours outside of the home over the years and would not have been able to homeschool (where my son learned to share my love for reading by reading good books with me) and attend seminary.

4) I highly recommend that opposite sex friendships not involve any touching at all. The way God has created us, our feelings tend to follow touch. Probably enough said about that. Be wise.

5) Stay above it when petty things intrude into your friendship, just as you would in same sex friendships. People may talk at some point. Prove them wrong. Be willing to listen to the folks who teach that opposite sex friendships are an impossibility after marriage. You don’t have to agree with them to listen. And you may learn something new that will help make your friendships safer.

6) As in all parts of life as a Christian, exceptions will occur where we just plain need to be Spirit-led. If I could write an exhaustive list of rules for opposite gender relationships, it would tend to make us think we could successfully do them without God in the picture!

An example of this from my travel with my job was I once found myself in a Burger King, sitting with a coworker and counseling him about an abortion that took place when he was young. If we had been home, I would never have gone alone with him to get lunch and, in fact, I don’t usually do that on the road either. I had thought several of us were going and then it turned out there were only two of us. I didn’t have my own rental car, so I went. But notice, we were in a public place, not behind closed doors. I don’t intend to ever make an exception of that!

Also, notice that there were not any Christian men readily available to counsel him. I think that would have been the ideal. But if someone needs Christian counsel and I can’t find a man to do it, by God’s grace I am going to do the best I can do.

We are all different. In my case, I have always had many male friends. I remember being 13 and feeling terribly awkward, thinking I had nothing to say to a boy who was trying to talk to me. Then I turned 14, a switch seemed to be thrown, and I have not shut up since in friendships with guys.

There were several men I dated, off and on, in college, remaining friends with them while dating others. The only way to do this is, of course, to maintain chaste relationships in the dating years. Once more than a casual kiss becomes part of the dating relationship, it opens up the possibility of jealousy when someone is back and forth between several relationships. We are created to desire exclusivity in the physical realm. That is why is it best to leave the physical part largely for marriage.

Just as I found myself able to maintain several chaste relationships with male friends in college, there is nothing stopping me from having chaste relationships with male friends now (and my husband from having chaste relationships with female friends). A desire to please God in every sphere of life and a core belief that we are to express ourselves physically in only one relationship, marriage, will help these friendships stay on course.

6) Realize that, if you are Christians, God fits friends together in a unique way.  Since no husband and wife share every interest in common, you will share some interests with your friend that his spouse does not.  Keep the perspective that you are one unique voice in his life that God has brought into place (as he is in yours).  We are all members of one another and need each other.  Don’t think of yourself as too important nor as too unimportant in that friend’s life.  You are one piece of the puzzle that enables him to be the person he is.  And he is the same for you.

As I write this, I am looking at two postcards recently sent to me by a friend who is an airline pilot.  He and I were in a Navy squadron together back in the mid-1980’s.  We were both single then.  He is still single, but is in a committed relationship with a friend of mine.  I introduced them almost ten years ago. 

When we were single, I traveled overseas with his flight crew.  We also got together as a twosome after hours a few times while we were home in Jacksonville (he was and remains an incredible cook!).  And we talked and talked during those times.  No romantic attachment, just deep friendship and good discussion (well, actually I am going to “out” myself here and tell him, if he is reading this, that I did have quite a crush on him in the early days.  Never let him know that because I didn’t want to take the chance of ruining a good friendship.  And I turned out to be right, as we have remained solid friends for thirty years). 

The thing that jumps out at me is the fact that there were certain things that we talked about back then that he still brings up every once in a while, on a postcard or when he sends me a foreign newspaper because it reminds him of something we once did together or talked about.  That is an amazing thing.  He remembers our discussions of Russian Orthodox icons and still sends me things to remind me after thirty years.  His partner understands that we share that interest and rejoices that he has someone to talk to about it.  It is really a beautiful thing to look back on, as we have grown thirty years into the future. 

Opposite gender friendships can be rewarding, if approached with the proper perspective.  I am not an expert on them, but just share what I have found in life so far.  I covet input by other people in the comments section down below.   

Easter Meditation

7 Apr

Mary Gardner Martin:

My blog post on our church website Monday.

Originally posted on Tabernacle for Today:

imagesSince a brief Easter meditation cannot reflect every possible thought about Easter, I choose with this one to reflect on Christ’s inclusivity.

Every human being longs for love and acceptance, to the point that we sometimes do crazy things to obtain them.

With Christ, we don’t need to do crazy things.  He just loves us!!!

Savor that for a moment.  You are loved as you are by a God who is totally holy.  He came as the God-man to ensure you would be able to live with Him forever.  Easter commemorates His defeat of death on our behalf.


Sunday our Sunday school lesson in my ladies’ class juxtaposed John 20 with John 4 (our current study is in the book of John).

In John 20, we see that Christ is risen from the dead and first shows Himself to a person who could not even legally bear witness, Mary…

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Millennials and Me!

17 Mar

I love Millennials.  And, as a 56-year-old woman, I count quite a few of them as my friends.

I love their passion.  I love their depth.  I love it when they are not afraid to swim against the current, going somewhat out of synch with the rest of the school of fish.

I love how their military members have mirrored the Greatest Generation of World War II, showing such raw heroism in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I love the fact that Millennials are irrepressibly optimistic, even while waiting long periods of time to work their way into good jobs or places in prestigious schools.

I love Millennials.

Yet, make no mistake.  I am not trying to become a Millennial.  I am not trying to hold back the hands of time nor hoping to fool anyone into thinking I am still in my 30’s instead of old enough to be the mother of my Millennial friends.

For I also love that I was born in the 1950’s.  I love that I came of age in the crazy 1970’s with my crazy 1970’s friends and classmates.

I love that I was the right age to meet and love and marry Noel.

I love that I was the right age to be the mother God chose for Joseph Oliver.

I love that I went to high school when I did, to college when I did, and into the Navy when I did.

In some ways I came of age in a simpler world.

But this world today is great, too.  My Millennial friends and I surely enjoy learning, and sharing, new technologies with each other.

Guess what I am saying is that Baby Boomers and Millennials need each other.  Both generations (and all generations) have flashes of brilliance.

But history is there for a reason.  No generation stands on its own.

Talking to a Seven-Year-Old about Dealings with the Police . . .

23 Dec

While I may not agree with every conclusion this professor makes, I do understand how hard it must be to have this conversation with his seven-year-old son right now.

Don’t Play One Sufferer Against Another . . .

19 Dec

Truer words . . .

The Gospel in Ancient Words . . .

19 Dec

A truly lovely ancient hymn!

Why I Gave Up Sports Talk Radio

19 Dec

Mary Gardner Martin:

This is very well put!

Originally posted on Mike Lee:

I’m not a big “give up stuff” guy.  In fact, the only thing I ever gave up was caffeine 25 years ago.  I did for a healthier lifestyle, not to make a statement or anything.  And yes, from time to time I’ll still drink a coffee drink, hot tea, or a soda, but not very often.

Since late October, I’ve given up sports talk radio and have been exclusively listening to Christian music.  I haven’t decided if this will be a permanent thing like giving up caffeine.

I’ve been listening to talk radio for years.  I can remember in the late 80s driving to seminary with a buddy who turned me on to Rush Limbaugh.  I haven’t listened to him in years.  But taking his place was sports radio.  I basically have a few presets on my radio: 2 Christian stations, 2 sports radio stations, our local radio station, and…

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Don’t Make Jesus a Stand-in for Santa Claus

17 Dec

Originally posted on Mike Lee:

santa claus coming to townIn Sunday’s sermon I said that for too many Christians, Christianity isn’t an adventure, it’s a bedtime story we tell our children so they’ll be good little boys and girls.  For some, Christianity is kind of like the Santa Claus is Coming to Town song where Jesus takes the place of Santa.  In this version of Christianity Jesus sees us when we’re sleeping or awake and always knows if we’ve been bad or good, so we better be good for goodness sake!

So how do we as parents, and as churches, guard ourselves from turning Jesus into a motivation for moral living?  How do we help them see Jesus as the goal for all of life out of Whom comes the fruit of righteous living?

1. Parents and churches have to teach that Jesus is the treasure we desire. Jesus is not a means to an end. He is the…

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